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Potty Training - 6/25/2009 5:52:20 PM   
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My son is very resistant to potty training and he is now 2 1/2 yrs old. I am always askiing him to go on the potty and have a Dora sticker board by the toilet, however he just seems like he is content to keep wearing a diaper. I am not pressuring him about it. He will do it whenhis time comes, however I was just wondering if anyone has any good ideas that worked for you. We are also slowly but steadily getting wid of the pacifier. He now has it when he naps and goes to bed, that it. He loves it.
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RE: Potty Training - 6/25/2009 5:58:18 PM   
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My kids liked watching a DVD called Potty Power. It really stirred my son to want to try the whole potty experience out. I think it also helped to have the little potty in the living room so they could sit and watch TV. I remember the first potty we got made a sound of trumpets when they went [it was shaped like a throne]. My son liked the noise.

Boys are usually slower to potty train than girls, but I think my son was actually really easy. Oh, and you might look for some of the little toy paper/sponge things that boys can 'shoot at' while they're going in the big potty.
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RE: Potty Training - 6/25/2009 6:11:56 PM   
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My advice is to either go for it, or leave it alone.

It sounds like this is not the plan for this summer. If that's the case, stop bothering him about it for now, so that when you bring it up again, maybe in the fall, he will know that it's something new, not just the everyday inquiries that he's been ignoring for months.

Do leave the stuff out, in case he has an interest in the meantime, though.

If you do want to do some 'lite' potty training (before you really get into it), you could simply sit him, diaper-less, on the potty for a little while at the same time every day, once or twice. Say, while you do his hygiene tasks, before his evening bath, or while he watches TV or something.

Don't expect anything to happen, and don't tell him that you want him to do anything. Act nonchalant. But if it does happen, you say, "That was pee-pee. It came out of your penis and went into the potty. That's great. That's where pee-pee belongs." (And maybe do a treat or a sticker.) Then put on his diaper and go on with life as usual.

Hint: Going is easy -- it's knowing when you need to that's hard. Start with the easy stuff.

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RE: Potty Training - 6/25/2009 6:38:24 PM   
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My son is very resistant to potty training and he is now 2 1/2 yrs old. I am always askiing him to go on the potty and have a Dora sticker board by the toilet, however he just seems like he is content to keep wearing a diaper. I am not pressuring him about it.


I'm a bit confused here. You say you're not pressurising him about it, yet you said earlier that you're *always* asking him to go on the potty, and *very resistant* to potty training. *Always asking* him to go on the potty is IMO pressurising him. How does he react when you ask him?
Has he ever done anything on the potty? Are you using a plastic portable one btw or are you expecting him to use the big toilet?

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RE: Potty Training - 6/26/2009 11:58:10 AM   
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I have a resistant boy too (same age). He knows what to do, he is just being lazy about it.

I just decided that it was time because during summer I can stay home all day and just get it done. We said bye bye the diapers together. I let him run aroung naked and every 20 or minutes or so I set him on the potty and we counted to 10 to see if anything would come out. If he pee peed any bit at all, I rewarded him with a jelly bean ( we had to step it up because stickers were not working)

It has been about a week and we have been able to go out in underwear for short trips and he used the potty at the grocery store.

If your are going to commit to it, then don't ask him..just tell him that it is time to try and potty. Today is the first day that my son actually went in on his own without me prompting.

For accidents, I make him help clean up. We stop what we are doing and make a long process of cleaning then go sit on the potty to see if anything is left...I am trying to make the point that it is easier to just go potty than to have an accident because I think that right now he thinks it is easier just to pee pee on the floor LOL

It has been much more difficult to train my son than it was my daughter.

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RE: Potty Training - 6/26/2009 12:07:46 PM   
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It has been much more difficult to train my son than it was my daughter.

I found it easier with my son than with my daughter! Though neither was extremely difficult, thankfully!

At least with a boy you can let them run around naked and get a 2-3 second "clue" when they need to go. With a girl you don't get any warning, you just see the puddle form round their feet.

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RE: Potty Training - 6/26/2009 4:41:47 PM   
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It has been much more difficult to train my son than it was my daughter.

I found it easier with my son than with my daughter! Though neither was extremely difficult, thankfully!

At least with a boy you can let them run around naked and get a 2-3 second "clue" when they need to go. With a girl you don't get any warning, you just see the puddle form round their feet.

lol...my older boy was easier than my oldest daughter and the daughter after him (not that they were hard)...my fourth kid was probably the most difficult...and he just was too busy with other things to be bothered...but one day, woke up and voile....

my fifth was the easiest...she just wanted to be like all her big brothers and sisters.


That said....to the OP....he is only 2 1/2. That is a really good age to start training him, but it is also a good age to just wait and see. As someone else said...leave the stuff out....put him on it right before or right after bath (or we used to have our oldest sit on it while one of us showered)...if something happens...great. If not....oh well.

If you really want to make it happen...you can encourage him by taking one day and feeding him salty snacks and then letting him drink as much water as he wants...and every 30 minutes put him on the potty (and yes..set a timer)..whether or not he has just gone or not. AT least once during the day he will succeed. You then make a HUGE big deal out of it (but do NOT make a big deal one way or the other out of accidents or non successful potty tries)....and offer more salty snacks, etc. Usually this will work with most kids...but be warned...it usually only works on the urinary part of training.....it takes a little more time to get the bowel movement part....

personally....I would just wait a little longer (and try jelly beans or m&m's or raisins for a treat instead of stickers...or...my oldest boy loved to blow out candles....lol...so every time he went...he got to blow out a candle)

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RE: Potty Training - 6/27/2009 11:43:27 PM   
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My son was 2 and he would say "need diaper".....meaning he needed to go. I'd put him in a diaper and he would wet or poop it. One day I said "I dont have any more diapers!" and put him in training pants".....shortly thereafter he was potty trained as he didnt like the feel of wet or poopy training pants (yes messy for a bit lol)
Also let both of mine, boy and girl, sit and watch favorite cartoon while sitting on their potty. They eventually wet in the potty and we clapped and cheered. Only parents clap for bowel movements LOL.
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RE: Potty Training - 3/7/2010 7:24:27 PM   
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This is the most recent potty training thread I can find, so I hope it's ok.

My son has been dry for maybe two weeks, and he's been in underwear, but he hasn't gotten the hang of pooping in the potty. He poops in his underwear once or twice a day, so constipation hasn't been a problem. He'll be 3 the end of this month, and my dH wants to return to pullups. I feel like this is going backwards and will only hurt us, but I understand dH's frustration. After all, the pooping problem has been going on for weeks, and he has pooped in the potty a few times, so he knows how, he just won't.

I'm honestly not sure, but I hate the thought of going back to diapers, as he is almost 3 and it will make training him all the harder when we try again. How long do we wait, till he's 4 or 5? That's ridiculous.

Any advice on how to get boys to poop in the toilet? We've tried stalling him with music or a book to read, so he's sitting there longer.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/7/2010 8:02:30 PM   
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Is it the plastic portable potty you're trying to get him to use, or the actual toilet?

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RE: Potty Training - 3/7/2010 8:46:24 PM   
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Ruth...is the house settled or are things still a little up in arms with the baby's schedule and such? If things aren't settled, then maybe going back into pullups will be good for a little while. Nathan needs to be settled to really fully potty train...esp in the pooping department. Some kids are just like that. So if things are still a bit off, then I would put him back in the pullups or just wash out undies every day. Don't think of it as a step backwards though...potty training is easy peasy for some, but for a lot of kids it is a very long process, sometimes taking years before everything is ok all the time.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/7/2010 9:04:25 PM   
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Manda, by his own choice he sits on the real toilet. But he has the choice.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/7/2010 9:23:55 PM   
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Naked potty training. We did it with my oldest, and it was fabulous! I think all kids have issues with pooping in the potty, but in time, and no pressure, they will get it. I know that Matthew wouldnt go potty for me when I pressured him, I backed off and let him run naked and he went potty in the potty by himself without any urging. I just left it on the floor (a plastic potty) and told him if he felt like he needed to go, there it was. 20 min. after that he went, and he potty-trained himself within 2 weeks. Pooping took about a month. But, its all about what works for them, not what works for you.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/7/2010 9:24:06 PM   
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I'd go for pullups. Poop is horrible to clean up if it's not contained. So much more stress on all of you.

You can continue with your regular pottying habits, and he can stay dry while you work on the poopy thing. Pullups are just training underwear that you can throw away. Get the ones with the little picture on the front, and make it a game for him to keep the picture there all day (it'll blur if he wets). I could probably get away with undies for Biruk at this point during the day, as we have many days in a row dry. But he's not ready to poop in the potty yet and the thought of cleaning toddler poop out of underwear many times a week is just too much for me. Maybe pullups will make it take a little longer, I don't know. But we haven't gone backwards as long as I'm consistent about reminding him to potty, and I think at that age it's normal to need to be reminded/guided.

I remember sneering about how I would never let my kid get away with using diapers past 2 when I was a teen and I saw someone changing a great big hulking 3 or 4 yo once. Needless to say, I'm a lot more sympathetic now that i'm actually a mom who's on her third round of potty training. It's not a moral issue or a character issue. Sometimes it might be an offshoot of a discipline issue, but other times a kid just does better taking a little more time. You could probably train him in a week if you really cracked down and forced the issue, but having done that, and regretted it deeply, I don't recommend it at all.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/7/2010 9:30:44 PM   
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be 3 the end of this month, and my dH wants to return to pullups. I feel like this is going backwards and will only hurt us, but I understand dH's frustration. After all, the pooping problem has been going on for weeks, and he has pooped in the potty a few times, so he knows how, he just won't.


Hannah didn't train until she was 3.5 and she had some poop accidents during naptime when she was training. But that's to be expected...since even at that age their sphincter muscles aren't fully developed. We *never* punished her for her accidents just encouraged her for next time and gave her praise & a treat for actually going in the toilet.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 6:05:55 AM   
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Manda, by his own choice he sits on the real toilet. But he has the choice.



I wasn't thinking about choice.

It makes it easier if he sits on the real toilet (though does he have a trainer seat?)

My suggestion is to talk to him about how exciting it is to poo on the toilet and hear the big splash! And get him to guess whether his next poo will make a big splash or a little splash. Does he get to flush the toilet afterwards himself as well? We used to say "bye bye poo" as it went. With my dd, making up a song helped as well. We used the tune of Frere Jacques and I added toilet-relevant words.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 7:27:44 AM   
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He does get to flush, but we could try talking about making a big splash and all that other stuff. Thanks. Oh, yes, he does have a trainer seat, but he typically doesn't use it. I'll ask him again today.

Kim, we don't punish of course, but we do talk about what we expect of him. I think that's fair. He has pooped in the potty a few times, so he's physically capable, he just doesn't want to take the time to really sit and go. Peeing is such a quick affair.

At the very least he needs to be trained by August, when pre-school starts (mornings only a few days a week), but that is 5 months away.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 8:15:07 AM   
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Boys wil be boys and are thinking of playing more then pottying!

Ruth, In 5 months I think he will have the pooping thing down. Do you have a rewards chart/system that where if he poops in the potty, he gets to put a sticker on his hand/paper or get a special treat at the end of the day?

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 8:35:59 AM   
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You know, we've told him verbally that he would get a treat for pooping, but maybe a sticker chart on the fridge would be a better visual way to remind him/give him incentive.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 9:09:36 AM   
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You know, we've told him verbally that he would get a treat for pooping, but maybe a sticker chart on the fridge would be a better visual way to remind him/give him incentive.

Maybe a sticker or reward chart in the bathroom...some kids are VERY visual, and having the chart in the kitchen and not the bathroom could cause a disconnect. It would give him something to look at when he is sitting there on the potty.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 9:34:37 AM   
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He does get to flush, but we could try talking about making a big splash and all that other stuff. Thanks. Oh, yes, he does have a trainer seat, but he typically doesn't use it. I'll ask him again today.

Without the trainer seat, they can fear that they may fall in; they may also not be able to get the leverage they need in order to be able to "push".

I don't know if this applies to Nathan, but some young children get anxious about what they perceive as part of themselves (the poo) being flushed away and disappearing. That's why we concentrated on the "fun" talk about the splashing and flushing, and had a special song to sing (and said "bye bye" to it when it went away).

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 9:51:54 AM   
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Manda, I asked him again this morning if he would like his seat, and he said no, but I'll keep asking.

Sarah, that's a very good point, only we have 3 bathrooms, so maybe a chart in each one?

Maggie, Nathan would definitely revert to peeing in his pullups. The whole fading picture thing wouldn't be an incentive for him. We'd loose everything we've gained in training to keep his underwear dry.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 9:54:01 AM   
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Manda, I asked him again this morning if he would like his seat, and he said no, but I'll keep asking.



You could also just chat generally to him about the seat making it easier to balance. Or just saying that some children worry about falling down the toilet, and that the seat can make them feel safer, because you can't fall down with it. And then just see what he says. You could also make a joke of it by saying that as you get bigger your butt gets bigger and you don't fall down the toilet any more!

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 9:56:36 AM   
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Have you ever kept a note of what time each day he has a poo? With Jonathan, it was invariably within the same hour every day, so I used to organise things around that time, and make sure he was in situ round about the right time. I know not everyone is so regular, but it might be worth seeing if Nathan IS at all regular timewise.

Another thing, if he messes his underpants, is to get HIM to rinse them through himself, and wash them. Not as a punishment, just as a consequence.

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RE: Potty Training - 3/8/2010 10:00:23 AM   
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Manda is right on that, though when they get older into their 3's I have found that they poop more then that certain time of day.

And I know with Matthew, before he was completely potty trained, whenever he had an accident I put a pullup back on him and lost all that we worked on because it felt like a diaper, and what do you do in a diaper? Pee and poo of course! Some kids they work, and some kids they dont. I dont blame you, Ruth, for being worried about that.

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